Wow, can't believe we're 20 films in already. Here goes another 10.
MOVIE #80
Shrykespeare
Copycat (1995) – Director: Jon Amiel; starring Sigourney Weaver, Holly Hunter, Dermot Mulroney, Will Patton and Harry Connick Jr. I have a thing for serial-killer movies if they’re done well, and this is one of the better ones. When a rash of killings – which are patterned after some of the most famous killers in history – bring together a tough-but-caring cop (Hunter) with an agoraphobic lecturer (Weaver), the result is a well-written, well-executed, entertaining story. And damn, Harry Connick Jr. was creepy!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lsmXhM4yfU0
silversurfer
Rififi (1955) - Director: Jules Dassin; starring Jean Servais, Carl Mohner, Robert Manuel and Perlo Vita. This was a movie I'd heard a lot about 10 years ago, but I only finally got to witness this fine example of noir a couple years ago due to its general unavailability and lack of exposure on television. However, upon first viewing I could understand why it had gained so much acclaim, as it is a gripping thriller from start to finish. The plot centres around an ex-con who upon release from jail is asked to lead a team of jewel thieves in a robbery, and the complications which ensue subsequently. Certainly one of the finest heist movies I've ever seen, and one which appears to have influenced pretty much every movie within the genre since it's release (most notably James Bond and Reservoir Dogs). However, what grabbed me the most about the movie was not the climax, which granted is tense and thrilling, but the actual heist scene midway through the movie, with its 30 minutes plus of complete silence as the gang carry out their plan: it is a flawlessly tense affair carried out with the precision of a ballet. There has never been a better execution of a scene in that style that I have ever seen, it is a pure adrenaline rush. Beyond that scene though this classic portrayal of a tragedy has you on the edge of your seat in support of the protagonists as it explores the notion of 'rough and tumble' guys (hence the title) trying to make a living in an era which is fast moving beyond them, and ultimately feels all the more relevant for it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a9bciTbt6l8
thegreenarrow
Fried Green Tomatoes (At The Whistlestop Café) (1991) - Director: Jon Avnet; starring Kathy Bates, Jessica Tandy and Mary Stuart Masterton.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=epG1GuOGYws
transformers
Clerks (1994) - Director: Kevin Smith; starring Jeff Anderson, Brian O'Halloran and Jason Mewes. Clerks, the film that kicked off Kevin Smith's great career, is vulgar and hysterical. Like Smith's other work, it's extremely quotable and the script is really clever. What also amazes me about Clerks is how well constructed it is for the amount of money it cost to make, wonderful use of a shoestring budget.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNd8nvnmhyM
englishozzy
The Green Mile (1999) - Director: Frank Darabont; starring Tom Hanks, Michael Clarke Duncan, David Morse and Bonnie Hunt. A film that will always walk in The Shawshank Redemption's shadow. Almost as good as its predecessor. Frank Darabont at the time quickly became my favourite director. Although a little long, there is no mistaking the majestic storytelling Darabont is capable of producing onto film, albeit with a little help from Stephen King. This film would be higher in my list if it didn't lag through scenes at times. Some strong performances, especially from Doug Hutchinson, who turns in a wicked character.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uDybmxbKf4Y
Ron Burgundy
Shrek (2001) – Directors: Andrew Adamson and Vicky Jensen; starring Mike Myers, Eddie Murphy, Cameron Diaz and John Lithgow.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pwYYpg0My8Y
Buscemi
To Kill a Mockingbird (1962) - Director: Robert Mulligan; starring Gregory Peck, Mary Badham, Phillip Alford, Brock Peters and Robert Duvall. A story of the end of innocence, told from the eyes of a child, is probably one of the best and most important family films ever made. Though also important for being Gregory Peck's finest hour in his role as lawyer Atticus Finch, who against all odds fights for what's right in proving the innocence of a black man in the Jim Crow-era South, I like it more for it showing the innocence of children and the character of Scout, Atticus's daughter. This was also Robert Duvall's first film, playing the mysterious Boo Radley. Even though you probably know everything that's going to happen with him, it will still surprise you when he emerges on screen. Though basically reworked into the 1994 film The Client (which merges the two premises into one despite a few updates for the 1990's), To Kill A Mockingbird is still the finer film.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mi88P7KfaMA
Chienfantome
JFK (1991) – Director: Oliver Stone, starring Kevin Costner, Tommy Lee Jones, Joe Pesci, Jack Lemmon and Gary Oldman. As I said earlier when I listed Platoon, I’m not a huge fan of Stone, as I don’t like most of his films. And yet there are two films of his I genuinely love and which are present in my Top 100. It’s a strange contradiction in my tastes. JFK is a film I was fascinated by when I was a teenager. It’s a crazy film, more than 3 hours long, extrapolating on the JFK assassination plot. That what this film describes is true or false barely matters. What’s important, in my eyes, is that JFK is a 3 hours long talkative film that is absolutely gripping. It’s a 3 hours long suspense than has always hypnotized me by its audacity tainted with classicism. It’s a film about obsession, how it consummates you. It’s also a powerful courtroom drama filled with one of the most stellar cast in the history of cinema. It’s a film I know I’m sucked into if I begin to watch it. And I’ve watched it, over and over.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fW15dp3R-6U
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Boogie Nights (1998) - Director: Paul Thomas Anderson; starring Mark Wahlberg, Burt Reynolds and John C Reilly. PT Anderson made his name with this excellent satire. Not on the sex industry (there’s hardly any point in satirizing that), but on the concept of fame itself. Rather than work hard Wahlberg’s character is far more interested in enjoying himself in every sense of the word, and ends up making money from having sex (it helps when he’s well….. gifted). Even though the film gets a lot of laughs from the self-deluded stars of the porn industry, there are also moments of drama, such as the outcome of William H. Macy’s cuckolded character. And of course the film ends by showing all these characters as sad and desperate, trying to convince themselves that they’re special.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LTMYcSU_HCc
Banks
Small Soldiers (1998) - Director: Joe Dante: starring Kirsten Dunst, Tommy Lee Jones and Gregory Smith. I loved this movie when I was little and went through a couple VHS copies – the Commando Elite were the perfect combination of scary (for a 10 year old) and hilarious. The main reason it works so well is the voice cast is perfection as each of their respective toys – I would’ve preferred a movie just about the Elite vs. the Gorgonites.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YwIt5wagRsg
BarcaRulz
The Big Lebowski (1998) - Directors: Joel and Ethan Coen; starring Jeff Bridges, John Goodman, Julianne Moore, Phillip Seymour Hoffman and Steve Buscemi. This is the Coens when they are at their strongest IMO. Smart interaction between normally unrelated characters. Pretty much one of the best 'screwball' comedies, even though it is much darker than most in those genre. Has an excellent script, excellent acting, and a great soundtrack.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r_GCRFRcWxA
Geezer
Mrs. Doubtfire (1993) - Director: Chris Columbus; starring Robin Williams, Sally Field and Pierce Brosnan. Simply a movie that I loved as a kid, and still love today. Its the perfect family film. Fun for the kids, fun for the adults. Its really Robin Williams just killing it scene after scene. He is so in his element, his quintessential film as far as I'm concerned. Timeless classic.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IYyNDWjIivo
JohnL
Trainspotting (1996) - Director: Danny Boyle; starring Ewan McGregor, Ewen Bremnar and Johnny Lee Miller. “Take the best orgasm you've ever had... multiply it by a thousand, and you're still nowhere near it.” A story of a junkie trying to recover and the difficulties he faces. I'm not really a fan of drug movies but I really like this one, I've never been on smack so I don't know if it’s anything they show but I could only imagine with the crazy images of this movie.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PUOTs55KY40
leestu
Finding Neverland (2004) – Director: Marc Forster; Starring Johnny Depp, Kate Winslet, Julie Christie, Freddie Highmore, and Dustin Hoffman.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hqXYTSYHFKI
W
The Matrix (1999) - Directors: The Wachowski Brothers; starring Keanu Reeves, Laurence Fishburne and Carrie-Anne Moss. An exciting genre-changing film. It's action packed, enjoyable, and pretty funny in parts. It makes you think and left you wanting more (how else could the second two installments gross over $1.15 B worldwide?). What else can you say?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j82GKTgVDkw
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MOVIE #80
Shrykespeare: Copycat (1995) – I have seen it, and there are some tense moments, but it just felt like a routine serial killer to me.
silversurfer: Rififi (1955) - I may have seen this, I'm not sure. The 30 minute silent heist scene sounds familiar, but maybe I've been told about it! Must check it out.
thegreenarrow: Fried Green Tomatoes (At The Whistlestop Café) (1991) - Seen it as a kid, when my cousin made me watch it. I never forgave her. From what I rememeber it's another typical and predictable weepy.
transformers: Clerks (1994) - The only Kevin Smith movie I like. It is indeed impressive to see a film that doesn't feel cheap even though it was made with barely any budget. Decent script. But Smith hasn't done anything nearly as good since.
englishozzy: The Green Mile (1999) - As I said before, I think this is an okay movie that's perhaps too long and the whole premise is borderline offensive.
Ron Burgundy: Shrek (2001) – Third time to see this on a list, but it's nothing I can resolutely disagree with. Amusing.
Buscemi: To Kill a Mockingbird (1962) - A good movie, perfectly adapted into a good book. Nothing about it blows me away, as there's a simplicity that makes me feel it's really a high-school book and a high-school movie. There's nothing beneath the surface. But Peck is excellent.
Chienfantome: JFK (1991) – Sorry Dude, but Stone is one of my least favourite directors and this is one of the many reasons why. I totally get that it's a film about obsession, but I feel that Stone lost grasp of this essential element. Again, like Irreversible, I think both films suffer from a problem of trying to replicate a feeling as opposed to expressing this through character and narrative. Irreversible wants to make us feel disoriented and sick, and so does this film, with its spiralling narrative and breakneck pace. But I find that kind of direction is crass. The film should have told us a story about someone being obsessed and caught in this trap of contradictions (like Zodiac), instead of making us caught in the trap. It just comes across as messy and confused.
Banks: Small Soldiers (1998) - Not a bad film. Again, there's a sense of irony in that the traditional images of the US military are in fact the bad guys, and it's the alien creatures that turn out to be reasonable. Who would have known that a kiddie movie could have such a political subtext?
BarcaRulz: The Big Lebowski (1998) - One of the funniest films of the last 20 years, without question. There's a killer joke in every single scene, and Bridges and Goodman are at thier career highs for this one. I also love that the Coens include their trademark philosophy that life is chaos, an idea the carry throughout most of their movies.
Geezer: Mrs. Doubtfire (1993) - To be honest I wasn't even a fan of this as a kid. Williams does give a good comic performance, but the comedy just isn't my style.
JohnL: Trainspotting (1996) - Read the book, watched the film, loved both. The heroin chic of the movie has faded a little, but ultimately it's a great film with a great soundtrack that certainly doesn't glorify the use of drugs.
leestu: Finding Neverland (2004) – I saw this in the cinema, and I thought Winslet was good. but ultimately, the film was a bore. Depp went from being one-dimensional characters in the PotC films and Charlie and the Chocolate Factory to being just dull in this. Very disappointing, and not nearly as magical as it should have been.
W: The Matrix (1999) - There are some good moments to the first film, so I can see the appeal, bt ultimately I'm not a huge fan. Reeves and Fishburne are absolutely awful in the movie. I think the freshmen philosophy is actually more pretentious and doesn't really make you think as opposed to want to make the film sound more intelligent. I also think the way in which the agents are presented isn't very coherent (they vary from being dangerous to being easily defeated, and this is BEFORE Neo wins the big fight at the end).
Shrykespeare: Copycat (1995) – I have seen it, and there are some tense moments, but it just felt like a routine serial killer to me.
silversurfer: Rififi (1955) - I may have seen this, I'm not sure. The 30 minute silent heist scene sounds familiar, but maybe I've been told about it! Must check it out.
thegreenarrow: Fried Green Tomatoes (At The Whistlestop Café) (1991) - Seen it as a kid, when my cousin made me watch it. I never forgave her. From what I rememeber it's another typical and predictable weepy.
transformers: Clerks (1994) - The only Kevin Smith movie I like. It is indeed impressive to see a film that doesn't feel cheap even though it was made with barely any budget. Decent script. But Smith hasn't done anything nearly as good since.
englishozzy: The Green Mile (1999) - As I said before, I think this is an okay movie that's perhaps too long and the whole premise is borderline offensive.
Ron Burgundy: Shrek (2001) – Third time to see this on a list, but it's nothing I can resolutely disagree with. Amusing.
Buscemi: To Kill a Mockingbird (1962) - A good movie, perfectly adapted into a good book. Nothing about it blows me away, as there's a simplicity that makes me feel it's really a high-school book and a high-school movie. There's nothing beneath the surface. But Peck is excellent.
Chienfantome: JFK (1991) – Sorry Dude, but Stone is one of my least favourite directors and this is one of the many reasons why. I totally get that it's a film about obsession, but I feel that Stone lost grasp of this essential element. Again, like Irreversible, I think both films suffer from a problem of trying to replicate a feeling as opposed to expressing this through character and narrative. Irreversible wants to make us feel disoriented and sick, and so does this film, with its spiralling narrative and breakneck pace. But I find that kind of direction is crass. The film should have told us a story about someone being obsessed and caught in this trap of contradictions (like Zodiac), instead of making us caught in the trap. It just comes across as messy and confused.
Banks: Small Soldiers (1998) - Not a bad film. Again, there's a sense of irony in that the traditional images of the US military are in fact the bad guys, and it's the alien creatures that turn out to be reasonable. Who would have known that a kiddie movie could have such a political subtext?
BarcaRulz: The Big Lebowski (1998) - One of the funniest films of the last 20 years, without question. There's a killer joke in every single scene, and Bridges and Goodman are at thier career highs for this one. I also love that the Coens include their trademark philosophy that life is chaos, an idea the carry throughout most of their movies.
Geezer: Mrs. Doubtfire (1993) - To be honest I wasn't even a fan of this as a kid. Williams does give a good comic performance, but the comedy just isn't my style.
JohnL: Trainspotting (1996) - Read the book, watched the film, loved both. The heroin chic of the movie has faded a little, but ultimately it's a great film with a great soundtrack that certainly doesn't glorify the use of drugs.
leestu: Finding Neverland (2004) – I saw this in the cinema, and I thought Winslet was good. but ultimately, the film was a bore. Depp went from being one-dimensional characters in the PotC films and Charlie and the Chocolate Factory to being just dull in this. Very disappointing, and not nearly as magical as it should have been.
W: The Matrix (1999) - There are some good moments to the first film, so I can see the appeal, bt ultimately I'm not a huge fan. Reeves and Fishburne are absolutely awful in the movie. I think the freshmen philosophy is actually more pretentious and doesn't really make you think as opposed to want to make the film sound more intelligent. I also think the way in which the agents are presented isn't very coherent (they vary from being dangerous to being easily defeated, and this is BEFORE Neo wins the big fight at the end).
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Wow. No fewer than FOUR films from my own list today:
englishozzy - The Green Mile - This has already been on my list, so you know that I adore this film. (9/10)
Ron Burgundy - Shrek - Ditto. (9/10)
Buscemi - To Kill a Mockingbird - Well, Boosh, you pegged it. Before we started this thing I said that there was only one movie on my list pre-1970, only one B/W movie, and this is it. What an absolutely outstanding movie. Peck as Finch is letter-perfect, as a beacon of fairness, morality and determination, which is why he was #1 on AFI's list of Greatest Movie Heroes of All Time. Though I have to say, comparing Harper Lee's work with John Grisham's is just plain wrong. (10/10)
W - The Matrix - Many movie play the game well, but very few actually end up changing the rules to it. This is one of them. (10/10)
And one that wasn't:
Geezer - Mrs. Doubtfire - Terrificially funny and heartwarming in places, but that scene in the restaurant where he had to keep switching between himself and Mrs. D for his boss and his family was way too "bad sitcom" for me. (7/10)
englishozzy - The Green Mile - This has already been on my list, so you know that I adore this film. (9/10)
Ron Burgundy - Shrek - Ditto. (9/10)
Buscemi - To Kill a Mockingbird - Well, Boosh, you pegged it. Before we started this thing I said that there was only one movie on my list pre-1970, only one B/W movie, and this is it. What an absolutely outstanding movie. Peck as Finch is letter-perfect, as a beacon of fairness, morality and determination, which is why he was #1 on AFI's list of Greatest Movie Heroes of All Time. Though I have to say, comparing Harper Lee's work with John Grisham's is just plain wrong. (10/10)
W - The Matrix - Many movie play the game well, but very few actually end up changing the rules to it. This is one of them. (10/10)
And one that wasn't:
Geezer - Mrs. Doubtfire - Terrificially funny and heartwarming in places, but that scene in the restaurant where he had to keep switching between himself and Mrs. D for his boss and his family was way too "bad sitcom" for me. (7/10)
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Re: Fantaverse Top 100 Movies of All Time (Thread #3): 80-71
No. 80
Shryke
Copycat - Have never seen or heard of it, but it looks really routine. I can pretty much guess the movie from that trailer.
SS
Rififi - Never heard of it, but from your description, it sounds terrific and now I'm itching to watch it. It sounds like a really good version of Ocean's 11.
GreenArrow
Fried Green Tomatoes - Never seen it, but I always though this was the ultimate chick flick. The trailer makes it look mildly interesting, but I don't think I'll be rushing to see it anytime soon.
Tranny
Clerks - I actually think this is the worst Kevin Smith film out there (I haven't seen Jersey Girl). It's respectful when you know the budget and the story of how he made it, but as a film, it's very weak, stupid, and boring. Ironically, I think Clerks 2 is his masterpiece - relative term there - and it really shows his growth of his career.
EnglishOzzy
The Green Mile - This just keeps popping up. And it was on TV last week - maybe it's a sign I should finally watch it?
RonB
Shrek - Like it well enough.
Buscemi
To Kill A Mockingbird - I've only seen this in a classroom setting - English 9th grade - and while I can certainly respect it for being good and classic in every way, I cannot really say I enjoyed it.
Chien
JFK - Haven't seen it, and describing it as a 3 hour courtroom drama is not helping the situation. Sitting through that would be like running a marathon...but a marathon of boredom and contempt.
Six
Boogie Nights - Love Boogie Nights, from the off the wall characters to the saddening and awkward situations they run into towards the end of the film. It's a really, really good version of Magnolia....just without the pretension.
Barca
The Big Lebowski - I've been hearing about this ever since I discovered the internet and still have yet to watch it. I tried once, but it started out really slowly and I gave up quickly. I HAVE to make it through this movie, if only to see what all the hype is about.
Geezer
Mrs. Doubtfire - I really liked this as a kid - it has all the hallmarks of an enjoyable family film from the 90s. But I tried to rewatch it earlier this year and it did nothing for me; unlike Home Alone, it doesn't hold up past puberty for me.
JohnL
Trainspotting - Another revered classic that I've never given a chance. One day...
leestu
Finding Neverland - As I'm not the biggest fan of Depp, I've never given this any thought. I've never seen or read Peter Pan, so I don't know if a origins story would really click for me.
W.
The Matrix - The first Matrix is beyond fantastic, I see it as a pre-cursor to Inception as they're both mainly action films that have more than your average brainpower behind it. It's been highly influential on everything that came after it (including Inception) and its technological achievements still stand up today.
Shryke
Copycat - Have never seen or heard of it, but it looks really routine. I can pretty much guess the movie from that trailer.
SS
Rififi - Never heard of it, but from your description, it sounds terrific and now I'm itching to watch it. It sounds like a really good version of Ocean's 11.
GreenArrow
Fried Green Tomatoes - Never seen it, but I always though this was the ultimate chick flick. The trailer makes it look mildly interesting, but I don't think I'll be rushing to see it anytime soon.
Tranny
Clerks - I actually think this is the worst Kevin Smith film out there (I haven't seen Jersey Girl). It's respectful when you know the budget and the story of how he made it, but as a film, it's very weak, stupid, and boring. Ironically, I think Clerks 2 is his masterpiece - relative term there - and it really shows his growth of his career.
EnglishOzzy
The Green Mile - This just keeps popping up. And it was on TV last week - maybe it's a sign I should finally watch it?
RonB
Shrek - Like it well enough.
Buscemi
To Kill A Mockingbird - I've only seen this in a classroom setting - English 9th grade - and while I can certainly respect it for being good and classic in every way, I cannot really say I enjoyed it.
Chien
JFK - Haven't seen it, and describing it as a 3 hour courtroom drama is not helping the situation. Sitting through that would be like running a marathon...but a marathon of boredom and contempt.
Six
Boogie Nights - Love Boogie Nights, from the off the wall characters to the saddening and awkward situations they run into towards the end of the film. It's a really, really good version of Magnolia....just without the pretension.
Barca
The Big Lebowski - I've been hearing about this ever since I discovered the internet and still have yet to watch it. I tried once, but it started out really slowly and I gave up quickly. I HAVE to make it through this movie, if only to see what all the hype is about.
Geezer
Mrs. Doubtfire - I really liked this as a kid - it has all the hallmarks of an enjoyable family film from the 90s. But I tried to rewatch it earlier this year and it did nothing for me; unlike Home Alone, it doesn't hold up past puberty for me.
JohnL
Trainspotting - Another revered classic that I've never given a chance. One day...
leestu
Finding Neverland - As I'm not the biggest fan of Depp, I've never given this any thought. I've never seen or read Peter Pan, so I don't know if a origins story would really click for me.
W.
The Matrix - The first Matrix is beyond fantastic, I see it as a pre-cursor to Inception as they're both mainly action films that have more than your average brainpower behind it. It's been highly influential on everything that came after it (including Inception) and its technological achievements still stand up today.
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Shrykespeare: Copycat (1995) –Haven't seen it.
silversurfer: Rififi (1955) -Haven't seen it.
thegreenarrow: Fried Green Tomatoes (At The Whistlestop Café) (1991) - Haven't seen it.
englishozzy: The Green Mile (1999) -Really powerful and amazing. Also on my list (9.5/10)
Ron Burgundy: Shrek (2001) –One of the best animated flicks in a while. Pretty original and really funny(8.5/10)
Buscemi: To Kill a Mockingbird (1962) - A good movie for sure, but not among my favorites (7.5/10)
Chienfantome: JFK (1991) –Haven't seen it.
number six: Boogie Nights(1997)- Haven't seen it. It's been on my Netflix queue forever, will see it eventually.
Banks: Small Soldiers (1998) -It's a decent movie not much else to say.(6.5/10)
BarcaRulz: The Big Lebowski (1998) -I find it to be a bit overrated, but it is pretty damn funny. Jeff Bridges and John Goodmare are both brillant and The Dude is an extremely memorable character. I haven't seen it in a while though and I have been meaning to rewatch it, my thoughts are most likely different. (7.5/10)
Geezer: Mrs. Doubtfire (1993) -Haven't seen it.
JohnL: Trainspotting (1996) -Love this film, one of Danny Boyle's best
leestu: Finding Neverland (2004) –Haven't seen it
W: The Matrix (1999) -One of the most innovative films ever made. The action sequences are perfect and the film as a whole is a masterpiece. One of my favorites as well. (10/10)
silversurfer: Rififi (1955) -Haven't seen it.
thegreenarrow: Fried Green Tomatoes (At The Whistlestop Café) (1991) - Haven't seen it.
englishozzy: The Green Mile (1999) -Really powerful and amazing. Also on my list (9.5/10)
Ron Burgundy: Shrek (2001) –One of the best animated flicks in a while. Pretty original and really funny(8.5/10)
Buscemi: To Kill a Mockingbird (1962) - A good movie for sure, but not among my favorites (7.5/10)
Chienfantome: JFK (1991) –Haven't seen it.
number six: Boogie Nights(1997)- Haven't seen it. It's been on my Netflix queue forever, will see it eventually.
Banks: Small Soldiers (1998) -It's a decent movie not much else to say.(6.5/10)
BarcaRulz: The Big Lebowski (1998) -I find it to be a bit overrated, but it is pretty damn funny. Jeff Bridges and John Goodmare are both brillant and The Dude is an extremely memorable character. I haven't seen it in a while though and I have been meaning to rewatch it, my thoughts are most likely different. (7.5/10)
Geezer: Mrs. Doubtfire (1993) -Haven't seen it.
JohnL: Trainspotting (1996) -Love this film, one of Danny Boyle's best
leestu: Finding Neverland (2004) –Haven't seen it
W: The Matrix (1999) -One of the most innovative films ever made. The action sequences are perfect and the film as a whole is a masterpiece. One of my favorites as well. (10/10)
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MOVIE #79
Shrykespeare
District 9 (2009) – Director: Neill Blomkamp; starring Sharlto Copley, David James and Vanessa Haywood. One of the biggest surprises of last year. Mixing sci-fi seamlessly with sociopolitical messages, the tale of a race of insectoid refugees from another planet to eventually commingle with South African society came out of nowhere, earned an Oscar nom and the healthy respect of nearly every critic in the country. Plus, it kicked ass.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_BjWEn5yvmw
silversurfer
Sin City (2005) - Directors: Robert Rodriguez and Frank Miller; starring Mickey Rourke, Bruce Willis, Clive Owen and Jessica Alba. Rodriguez, Tarantino and Miller? I'm in! Translating Miller's boundary pushing comic to film was never going to be an easy thing to do, but to explode the concept of comic book movies with their effort was beyond my wildest dreams. Rodriguez created a noir movie which is pushed into the 21st century with dazzling monochromatic visuals and a dialogue so smart and badass, that it became the epitome of cool. The action builds up your adrenaline to the max and keeps you entertained throughout, its imagination is limitless and its influence on the future of comic book movies unquestionable. It may be brash, completely over the top and far too excessive in its violence, but I wouldn't have it any other way!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YKFLrTYKIXk
thegreenarrow
Before Sunset (1999) - Director: Richard Linklater; starring Julie Delpy and Ethan Hawke.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvFosXeqmDg
transformers
Braveheart (1995) - Director: Mel Gibson; starring Mel Gibson, Patrick McGoohan and Angus Macfayden. Braveheart has always struck me as one of the most epic films ever made. The story, the landscape and the whole feel of the film are the sheer definition of epic. Its three-hour runtime is utilized quite well and it doesn't have any slow sections. Mel Gibson's most compelling and best film.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vBXBtORI7pE
englishozzy
V for Vendetta (2006) - Director: James McTeigue; starring Natalie Portman, Hugo Weaving, John Hurt and Stephen Fry. A film that has produced some mixed reviews from critics but to me is one of my favourite films. A very political-oriented film and more sub-contexts than I can count, but The Wachowski's and McTeigue blend that with some nice action to wet your appetite while pondering on our social conscience towards the War on Terror. A nice little thinking film and for me, a chance to forgive The Wachowskis for The Matrix sequels.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YKrTjd4iPSI
Ron Burgundy
Blood Diamond (2006) - Director: Edward Zwick; starring Leonardo DiCaprio, Jennifer Connelly and Djimon Hounsou.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XtPX2kXhu7I
Buscemi
Coming Home (1978) - Director: Hal Ashby; starring Jon Voight, Jane Fonda, Bruce Dern, Robert Carradine and Robert Ginty. Released the same year as the more famous The Deer Hunter, I feel that this is the better film. While The Deer Hunter was more on the action side and set in Vietnam, this one is more on the dramatic side and takes place at home. The premise, about a military wife who has an affair with a paraplegic ex-veteran (based partly off of Ron Kovic, the writer of Born on the Fourth of July and what the screenplay was originally before rewrites) while her husband is serving, was groundbreaking for its time and is still effective today. The performances are great and not surprisingly, both Voight and Fonda won Oscars for their roles here. In my opinion, it should have also won Best Picture but I guess the premise was too controversial for its time.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D4KhXoWhjFI
Chienfantome
Les Tontons Flingueurs (1963) – Director: Georges Lautner; starring Lino Ventura, Bernard Blier, Francis Blanche and Claude Rich. Well, sooner or later, you knew I would come up with a French comedy. For now my French picks were only dramas, but I’ve got a couple of comedies in my Top too, and here’s the first one. I have watched on IMdB, and in English this one seems to be known either under the title “Monsieur Gangster” or “Crooks in Clover”. I don’t know if it rings any bell for any of you, but in France it’s a classic. And the main reason why it’s a classic is because of its dialogues. The film was written by Michel Audiard, probably the best French dialogist ever (and father of Jacques “A prophet” Audiard). And Les Tontons Flingueurs is the cream of the crop, the perfect example of the genius of his work. This is a comedy about a bunch of gangsters watching over the daughter of their late boss, all the while trying to prevent enemies from messing with them. It’s a pure joy for the ears. Every single line of the film brings tons of laughs. It’s got all those fantastic French character actors, Ventura, Blier, Blanche, Lefebvre, and it’s a festival of jubilatory lines. Every time it’s on TV, I’m delighted to drink every word coming from the screen, full of 60’s gangster’s slang. The problem is, I don’t know what it’s like if you’re not French. The YouTube trailer won’t help you without subtitles, probably, but here it is:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDXqj-zByOo
numbersix
Kill Bill Vol. 1&2 (2003/2004) - Director: Quentin Tarantino; starring Uma Thurman, David Carradine, Chia Hui Liu, Daryl Hannah and Lucy Liu. Who would have thought Quentin Tarantino managed to adapt Buffy for the big screen: a bad-ass female fight that we respect and fear more than lust for. As proof of its quality I thought I’d hate Kill Bill when I watched the trailers, but come out of the first film buzzed beyond belief. Tarantino made a high-octane, beautifully shot action movie that is a homage to kung fu/samurai films but was accessible to those ignorant of the genre. As per usual, he adds his own take on his influences and manages to make something incredibly special. It’s only a pity Death Proof was so poor and Inglourious Basterds so problematic (it had some great moments and some bad ones).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKQNkcSGFes
Banks
Ratatouille (2007) - Director: Brad Bird; starring Patton Oswalt, Janeane Garofalo and Peter O’Toole. Honestly, this was the first time I’d doubted Pixar – I mean, a movie about a sewer rat in Paris who longs to be a chef? But now I know, like most everyone, that you never doubt Pixar. They made a movie about reaching for your dreams no matter what, about hard work and motivation, including characters – whether rat, human, or ghost – that you can fall in love with in seconds. And they show their knack for spot-on voice casting, with Patton Oswalt playing Remy as plucky and determined.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c3sBBRxDAqk
BarcaRulz
Heat (1995) - Director: Michael Mann; starring Robert DeNiro, Al Pacino, Val Kilmer, Jon Voight, Tom Sizemore. An ensemble cast if ever there was one. While a lot of people I know feel that they were let down by the whole "DeNiro/Pacino in the same scene" nonsense, I chose to take a look at the big picture. I have a fondness for heist movies, and to be honest this is pretty much the best they can get. The acting was fantastic throughout (except in some scenes when Pacino was a little OTT), and they story gripped you in its suspense as you watched it unfold.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0xbBLJ1WGwQ
Geezer
Psycho (1960) - Director: Alfred Hitchcock; starring Anthony Perkins, Janet Leigh and Vera Miles. Hitchcock is a true master of film, and Psycho is one of his best features. There aren't many films this old that I am a true fan of, which is a testament to how great the film really is. It has stood the test of time, and remains as creepy and spine-tinglingly suspenseful as ever. Killing off your biggest start that early in the film was a feat only Hitchcock could have pulled off and made successful. Its a must watch for anyone who considers themselves a fan or film.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NG3-GlvKPcg
JohnL
The Lord of the Rings : The Two Towers (2002) - Director: Peter Jackson; starring Elijah Wood, Ian McKellen, Orlando Bloom and Viggo Mortensen. “That's no orc horn.” More great action from the LOTR franchise; it’s a great movie and the last hour solidifies that with the epic battle at Helm's Deep.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c9tnZRs4tNE
leestu
Oldboy (2003) – Director: Chan-wook Park; starring Dae-su Oh and Woo-jin Lee.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YLn1y9v6yno
W
Kramer vs. Kramer (1979) - Director: Robert Benton; starring Dustin Hoffman, Meryl Streep and Jane Alexander. A pretty scary story at the time, Kramer vs. Kramer is a story about a couple that separates. The mother leaves her child with the father for six months or so and goes "soul searching" then comes back seeking custody. Dustin Hoffman is great as the father and totally deserves his Oscar for it and the rest of the accolades (4 more Oscars including best picture) are deserved as well as it is pretty spot on emotionally and very realistic. I've only seen it once, but its a favorite because it pretty much paralleled exactly what I was going through when I watched it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jNLcfJ06y34
Shrykespeare
District 9 (2009) – Director: Neill Blomkamp; starring Sharlto Copley, David James and Vanessa Haywood. One of the biggest surprises of last year. Mixing sci-fi seamlessly with sociopolitical messages, the tale of a race of insectoid refugees from another planet to eventually commingle with South African society came out of nowhere, earned an Oscar nom and the healthy respect of nearly every critic in the country. Plus, it kicked ass.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_BjWEn5yvmw
silversurfer
Sin City (2005) - Directors: Robert Rodriguez and Frank Miller; starring Mickey Rourke, Bruce Willis, Clive Owen and Jessica Alba. Rodriguez, Tarantino and Miller? I'm in! Translating Miller's boundary pushing comic to film was never going to be an easy thing to do, but to explode the concept of comic book movies with their effort was beyond my wildest dreams. Rodriguez created a noir movie which is pushed into the 21st century with dazzling monochromatic visuals and a dialogue so smart and badass, that it became the epitome of cool. The action builds up your adrenaline to the max and keeps you entertained throughout, its imagination is limitless and its influence on the future of comic book movies unquestionable. It may be brash, completely over the top and far too excessive in its violence, but I wouldn't have it any other way!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YKFLrTYKIXk
thegreenarrow
Before Sunset (1999) - Director: Richard Linklater; starring Julie Delpy and Ethan Hawke.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvFosXeqmDg
transformers
Braveheart (1995) - Director: Mel Gibson; starring Mel Gibson, Patrick McGoohan and Angus Macfayden. Braveheart has always struck me as one of the most epic films ever made. The story, the landscape and the whole feel of the film are the sheer definition of epic. Its three-hour runtime is utilized quite well and it doesn't have any slow sections. Mel Gibson's most compelling and best film.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vBXBtORI7pE
englishozzy
V for Vendetta (2006) - Director: James McTeigue; starring Natalie Portman, Hugo Weaving, John Hurt and Stephen Fry. A film that has produced some mixed reviews from critics but to me is one of my favourite films. A very political-oriented film and more sub-contexts than I can count, but The Wachowski's and McTeigue blend that with some nice action to wet your appetite while pondering on our social conscience towards the War on Terror. A nice little thinking film and for me, a chance to forgive The Wachowskis for The Matrix sequels.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YKrTjd4iPSI
Ron Burgundy
Blood Diamond (2006) - Director: Edward Zwick; starring Leonardo DiCaprio, Jennifer Connelly and Djimon Hounsou.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XtPX2kXhu7I
Buscemi
Coming Home (1978) - Director: Hal Ashby; starring Jon Voight, Jane Fonda, Bruce Dern, Robert Carradine and Robert Ginty. Released the same year as the more famous The Deer Hunter, I feel that this is the better film. While The Deer Hunter was more on the action side and set in Vietnam, this one is more on the dramatic side and takes place at home. The premise, about a military wife who has an affair with a paraplegic ex-veteran (based partly off of Ron Kovic, the writer of Born on the Fourth of July and what the screenplay was originally before rewrites) while her husband is serving, was groundbreaking for its time and is still effective today. The performances are great and not surprisingly, both Voight and Fonda won Oscars for their roles here. In my opinion, it should have also won Best Picture but I guess the premise was too controversial for its time.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D4KhXoWhjFI
Chienfantome
Les Tontons Flingueurs (1963) – Director: Georges Lautner; starring Lino Ventura, Bernard Blier, Francis Blanche and Claude Rich. Well, sooner or later, you knew I would come up with a French comedy. For now my French picks were only dramas, but I’ve got a couple of comedies in my Top too, and here’s the first one. I have watched on IMdB, and in English this one seems to be known either under the title “Monsieur Gangster” or “Crooks in Clover”. I don’t know if it rings any bell for any of you, but in France it’s a classic. And the main reason why it’s a classic is because of its dialogues. The film was written by Michel Audiard, probably the best French dialogist ever (and father of Jacques “A prophet” Audiard). And Les Tontons Flingueurs is the cream of the crop, the perfect example of the genius of his work. This is a comedy about a bunch of gangsters watching over the daughter of their late boss, all the while trying to prevent enemies from messing with them. It’s a pure joy for the ears. Every single line of the film brings tons of laughs. It’s got all those fantastic French character actors, Ventura, Blier, Blanche, Lefebvre, and it’s a festival of jubilatory lines. Every time it’s on TV, I’m delighted to drink every word coming from the screen, full of 60’s gangster’s slang. The problem is, I don’t know what it’s like if you’re not French. The YouTube trailer won’t help you without subtitles, probably, but here it is:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDXqj-zByOo
numbersix
Kill Bill Vol. 1&2 (2003/2004) - Director: Quentin Tarantino; starring Uma Thurman, David Carradine, Chia Hui Liu, Daryl Hannah and Lucy Liu. Who would have thought Quentin Tarantino managed to adapt Buffy for the big screen: a bad-ass female fight that we respect and fear more than lust for. As proof of its quality I thought I’d hate Kill Bill when I watched the trailers, but come out of the first film buzzed beyond belief. Tarantino made a high-octane, beautifully shot action movie that is a homage to kung fu/samurai films but was accessible to those ignorant of the genre. As per usual, he adds his own take on his influences and manages to make something incredibly special. It’s only a pity Death Proof was so poor and Inglourious Basterds so problematic (it had some great moments and some bad ones).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKQNkcSGFes
Banks
Ratatouille (2007) - Director: Brad Bird; starring Patton Oswalt, Janeane Garofalo and Peter O’Toole. Honestly, this was the first time I’d doubted Pixar – I mean, a movie about a sewer rat in Paris who longs to be a chef? But now I know, like most everyone, that you never doubt Pixar. They made a movie about reaching for your dreams no matter what, about hard work and motivation, including characters – whether rat, human, or ghost – that you can fall in love with in seconds. And they show their knack for spot-on voice casting, with Patton Oswalt playing Remy as plucky and determined.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c3sBBRxDAqk
BarcaRulz
Heat (1995) - Director: Michael Mann; starring Robert DeNiro, Al Pacino, Val Kilmer, Jon Voight, Tom Sizemore. An ensemble cast if ever there was one. While a lot of people I know feel that they were let down by the whole "DeNiro/Pacino in the same scene" nonsense, I chose to take a look at the big picture. I have a fondness for heist movies, and to be honest this is pretty much the best they can get. The acting was fantastic throughout (except in some scenes when Pacino was a little OTT), and they story gripped you in its suspense as you watched it unfold.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0xbBLJ1WGwQ
Geezer
Psycho (1960) - Director: Alfred Hitchcock; starring Anthony Perkins, Janet Leigh and Vera Miles. Hitchcock is a true master of film, and Psycho is one of his best features. There aren't many films this old that I am a true fan of, which is a testament to how great the film really is. It has stood the test of time, and remains as creepy and spine-tinglingly suspenseful as ever. Killing off your biggest start that early in the film was a feat only Hitchcock could have pulled off and made successful. Its a must watch for anyone who considers themselves a fan or film.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NG3-GlvKPcg
JohnL
The Lord of the Rings : The Two Towers (2002) - Director: Peter Jackson; starring Elijah Wood, Ian McKellen, Orlando Bloom and Viggo Mortensen. “That's no orc horn.” More great action from the LOTR franchise; it’s a great movie and the last hour solidifies that with the epic battle at Helm's Deep.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c9tnZRs4tNE
leestu
Oldboy (2003) – Director: Chan-wook Park; starring Dae-su Oh and Woo-jin Lee.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YLn1y9v6yno
W
Kramer vs. Kramer (1979) - Director: Robert Benton; starring Dustin Hoffman, Meryl Streep and Jane Alexander. A pretty scary story at the time, Kramer vs. Kramer is a story about a couple that separates. The mother leaves her child with the father for six months or so and goes "soul searching" then comes back seeking custody. Dustin Hoffman is great as the father and totally deserves his Oscar for it and the rest of the accolades (4 more Oscars including best picture) are deserved as well as it is pretty spot on emotionally and very realistic. I've only seen it once, but its a favorite because it pretty much paralleled exactly what I was going through when I watched it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jNLcfJ06y34
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Re: Fantaverse Top 100 Movies of All Time (Thread #3): 80-71
Some fantastic choices here! Just have to say, Six, glad I'm not the only one that can only consider Kill Bill one film. It shouldn't be any other way.
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Re: Fantaverse Top 100 Movies of All Time (Thread #3): 80-71
I actually can't consider them one film. I just can't. But that's just me. As a result, only one of the Kill Bills will be on my list. Probably not hard to figure which one.
Happy 60th birthday Jet Li! (4/26/23)
Re: Fantaverse Top 100 Movies of All Time (Thread #3): 80-71
MOVIE #79
Shrykespeare: District 9 (2009) – Decent action, great performance, but the sociopolitical message shoots itself in the foot through the demonising of Nigerians, so I feel it's not as smart as it thought it was. but still smarter than 99% of hollywood action films! I kinda wanted Blomkamp to direct The Hobbit films and see what he could do.
silversurfer: Sin City (2005) - I think this film definitely popularised the adaptation of adult-orineted comics, which is a good thing (even if it resulted in the poor 300 and the disappointing Watchmen), and it's visually stunning. Some awful dialogue and slightly misogynistic, but not enough to make me thoroughly enjoy the great bits.
thegreenarrow: Before Sunset (1999) - Well, you got the year wrong
I've definitely seen Sunset, and while it's not the most memorable, the idea of missed encounters and missed opportunities is an interesting basis for a film, and the dialogue is great. Really enjoyed it.
transformers: Braveheart (1995) - I'm gonna keep saying it: the violent action doesn't atone for the blinkered black-and-white view of its protagonist. I know it's a movie but reality wasn't like that (Wallace was already a Scottish Knight) but a 3-hour movie in which the protagonist is angelic and the antagonist a demon doesn't make for an interesting viewing, no matter how many legs are chopped off. Here's a pointless factoid: the same extras are used for both sides (the Scottish and the English) of the battles as they didn't have enough. So in a way the extras were fighting themselves in some scenes!
englishozzy: V for Vendetta (2006) - Gah! How many more times will this infect our Top 100's (I suspect a few more). I really don't think the subtexts are that interesting, and certainly not cleverly explored. Plus, what exactly does the film say about The War on Terror? If you like it as an action film, fine, but don't think it's anything more than that.
Ron Burgundy: Blood Diamond (2006) - wow, surprised to see this appear again. Like I said, it would have been a better film if it focused on Hounsou's character alone.
Buscemi:Coming Home (1978) - Well, I do need to say that you're wrong in that The Deer Hunter was more on the action side. while there are scenes in Vietnam, far more time is spent in the US, both before and after the war. I have never seen this, and I've heard Voight is excellent, so I should check it out.
Chienfantome: Les Tontons Flingueurs (1963) – Sounds interesting, espcially as it's written by Jacques Audriad's father. I've never seen it, but I doubt that's a surprise for you!
numbersix: Kill Bill Vol. 1&2 (2003/2004) - After Geez's comment, I feel I shoudl mention why I lumped them together. I just don't think a film with a cliffhanger and unresolved narrative should be considered separate (Back to the Future, does have a Cliffhanger but it also has narrative resolution so it works as a single movie, whereas the LoTR films don't have narrative resolution in each step, so I now feel that they should be treated as a single film). If I did separate them, Vol 1 would be higher and Vol 2 wouldn't make my Top 100, but they just can't be separated for me. Plus, they were made as one film originally anyway.
Banks: Ratatouille (2007) - I know Shryke would be happy to see this, but it's not my favourite Pixar by a long shot (Toy Story 1-3, Up, and Monsters Inc are all better in my humble opinion). It's still a good film, and the scenes where taste and flavour are visualised are highly impressive. but I felt most of the jokes didn't work, and I didn't quite like the Alfredo character (he never quite had a moment of realisation), and ultimately the film wouldn't be half as good without that anton Ego flashback scene. So still good, but not perfect.
BarcaRulz: Heat (1995) - Not a fan of Michael Mann. I find him to be a dull visualist in general, and in fact the consciously dulls his action scenes in order to make them "realistic", even though the plots and characters of his stories never suit realism. I found Heat to have good moments, but ultimately was overlong, convoluted, with some awful performances (Kilmer and Pacino in particular).
Geezer: Psycho (1960) - Agreed: Hitch is a master and this is one of his best. Didn't make my Top 100 as there's a few Hitch flicks I prefer, but Psycho still chills to this day, and it's a ballsy, inspirational film.
JohnL: The Lord of the Rings : The Two Towers (2002) - I think we're going to see a lot of this in the Bottom 50's, and the other 2 in the Top 50's? No qualms for me, I think Fellowship is the best movie, then Return of the King, and then Two Towers. But as a single film it's a joy.
leestu: Oldboy (2003) – Good to see this appearing in a few Top 100's. I've seen this a few times, and it never loses its edge. Thank Chan-Wook Park for his stunning direction.
W: Kramer vs. Kramer (1979) - Haven't seen it. Know I should, but I've been told it's ultimately a routine weepy. Also, I resent it for beating Apocalypse Now for Best Film and director, as well as Peter Sellars for Best Actor. Oh, and I bet Kramer wins at the end.
Shrykespeare: District 9 (2009) – Decent action, great performance, but the sociopolitical message shoots itself in the foot through the demonising of Nigerians, so I feel it's not as smart as it thought it was. but still smarter than 99% of hollywood action films! I kinda wanted Blomkamp to direct The Hobbit films and see what he could do.
silversurfer: Sin City (2005) - I think this film definitely popularised the adaptation of adult-orineted comics, which is a good thing (even if it resulted in the poor 300 and the disappointing Watchmen), and it's visually stunning. Some awful dialogue and slightly misogynistic, but not enough to make me thoroughly enjoy the great bits.
thegreenarrow: Before Sunset (1999) - Well, you got the year wrong
I've definitely seen Sunset, and while it's not the most memorable, the idea of missed encounters and missed opportunities is an interesting basis for a film, and the dialogue is great. Really enjoyed it. transformers: Braveheart (1995) - I'm gonna keep saying it: the violent action doesn't atone for the blinkered black-and-white view of its protagonist. I know it's a movie but reality wasn't like that (Wallace was already a Scottish Knight) but a 3-hour movie in which the protagonist is angelic and the antagonist a demon doesn't make for an interesting viewing, no matter how many legs are chopped off. Here's a pointless factoid: the same extras are used for both sides (the Scottish and the English) of the battles as they didn't have enough. So in a way the extras were fighting themselves in some scenes!
englishozzy: V for Vendetta (2006) - Gah! How many more times will this infect our Top 100's (I suspect a few more). I really don't think the subtexts are that interesting, and certainly not cleverly explored. Plus, what exactly does the film say about The War on Terror? If you like it as an action film, fine, but don't think it's anything more than that.
Ron Burgundy: Blood Diamond (2006) - wow, surprised to see this appear again. Like I said, it would have been a better film if it focused on Hounsou's character alone.
Buscemi:Coming Home (1978) - Well, I do need to say that you're wrong in that The Deer Hunter was more on the action side. while there are scenes in Vietnam, far more time is spent in the US, both before and after the war. I have never seen this, and I've heard Voight is excellent, so I should check it out.
Chienfantome: Les Tontons Flingueurs (1963) – Sounds interesting, espcially as it's written by Jacques Audriad's father. I've never seen it, but I doubt that's a surprise for you!
numbersix: Kill Bill Vol. 1&2 (2003/2004) - After Geez's comment, I feel I shoudl mention why I lumped them together. I just don't think a film with a cliffhanger and unresolved narrative should be considered separate (Back to the Future, does have a Cliffhanger but it also has narrative resolution so it works as a single movie, whereas the LoTR films don't have narrative resolution in each step, so I now feel that they should be treated as a single film). If I did separate them, Vol 1 would be higher and Vol 2 wouldn't make my Top 100, but they just can't be separated for me. Plus, they were made as one film originally anyway.
Banks: Ratatouille (2007) - I know Shryke would be happy to see this, but it's not my favourite Pixar by a long shot (Toy Story 1-3, Up, and Monsters Inc are all better in my humble opinion). It's still a good film, and the scenes where taste and flavour are visualised are highly impressive. but I felt most of the jokes didn't work, and I didn't quite like the Alfredo character (he never quite had a moment of realisation), and ultimately the film wouldn't be half as good without that anton Ego flashback scene. So still good, but not perfect.
BarcaRulz: Heat (1995) - Not a fan of Michael Mann. I find him to be a dull visualist in general, and in fact the consciously dulls his action scenes in order to make them "realistic", even though the plots and characters of his stories never suit realism. I found Heat to have good moments, but ultimately was overlong, convoluted, with some awful performances (Kilmer and Pacino in particular).
Geezer: Psycho (1960) - Agreed: Hitch is a master and this is one of his best. Didn't make my Top 100 as there's a few Hitch flicks I prefer, but Psycho still chills to this day, and it's a ballsy, inspirational film.
JohnL: The Lord of the Rings : The Two Towers (2002) - I think we're going to see a lot of this in the Bottom 50's, and the other 2 in the Top 50's? No qualms for me, I think Fellowship is the best movie, then Return of the King, and then Two Towers. But as a single film it's a joy.
leestu: Oldboy (2003) – Good to see this appearing in a few Top 100's. I've seen this a few times, and it never loses its edge. Thank Chan-Wook Park for his stunning direction.
W: Kramer vs. Kramer (1979) - Haven't seen it. Know I should, but I've been told it's ultimately a routine weepy. Also, I resent it for beating Apocalypse Now for Best Film and director, as well as Peter Sellars for Best Actor. Oh, and I bet Kramer wins at the end.
Re: Fantaverse Top 100 Movies of All Time (Thread #3): 80-71
Thats exactly why I consider Kill Bill one film, Six. It is entirely one narrative. You pop the second film in and pick up DIRECTLY where the first one left off. I can't watch one without the other, because if I watch just the first, I feel ripped off! There is no resolution! How can a movie end with a basic television "to be continued" type ending and still be considered a complete film? I don't get it. I don't see LOTR the same way, because I do fell each chapter does have its own sort of resolution, its own ending. In Two Towers for example, the whole film builds towards the climactic battle at Helm's Deep, and when the battle is over, the action falls and the film ends. Sure, you know there is more to be done with the story and I see your point, and don't have a problem with your decision to refer to them as one, but I can sit and watch any chapter and not have to watch the whole thing. I can't do that with Kill Bill. I'd feel cheated, they don't work as singular films, but as a whole, fucking fantastic.
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MOVIE #79
Holy shit, FIVE movies from my list today.
silversurfer - Sin City (2005) - Terrific movie. (8/10)
transformers - Braveheart (1995) - On my list. Great choice. (10/10)
englishozzy - V for Vendetta (2006) - In my Top 10. Outstanding choice. (10/10)
Ron Burgundy - Blood Diamond (2006) - Decent movie, but very hard to watch in parts. (6/10)
numbersix - Kill Bill Vol. 1&2 (2003/2004) - Well, unlike everyone else, I grade the two chapters separately. Whether they are essentially two halves of the same narrative or not, I see them as separate films. Symbiotic, yes. But separate. But again, that's just me. I wish my friend Larry would have lived to see Kill Bill, I have no doubt it would have been one of his favorites: he adored samurai films, spaghetti westerns, and Tarantino, in that order. Part 1: (10/10) Part 2: (8/10)
Banks - Ratatouille (2007) - On my list. Finally, Banks, your list overlaps mine!! (10/10)
BarcaRulz - Heat (1995) - I've only seen snippets of this movie, it's just really hard for me to get through. The scene in the diner between Pacino and DeNiro was terrific, though.
JohnL - The Lord of the Rings : The Two Towers (2002) - On my list. (10/10)
Two other things:
1. I'm going to take Thanksgiving night off from posting a movie, so for those of you outside the U.S., do not expect a post this Thursday.
2. Does anyone know how to clean out a computer's Host File? Mine is infected with dozens of sites that I don't want there, and nothing that I do to remove them seems to work.
Holy shit, FIVE movies from my list today.
silversurfer - Sin City (2005) - Terrific movie. (8/10)
transformers - Braveheart (1995) - On my list. Great choice. (10/10)
englishozzy - V for Vendetta (2006) - In my Top 10. Outstanding choice. (10/10)
Ron Burgundy - Blood Diamond (2006) - Decent movie, but very hard to watch in parts. (6/10)
numbersix - Kill Bill Vol. 1&2 (2003/2004) - Well, unlike everyone else, I grade the two chapters separately. Whether they are essentially two halves of the same narrative or not, I see them as separate films. Symbiotic, yes. But separate. But again, that's just me. I wish my friend Larry would have lived to see Kill Bill, I have no doubt it would have been one of his favorites: he adored samurai films, spaghetti westerns, and Tarantino, in that order. Part 1: (10/10) Part 2: (8/10)
Banks - Ratatouille (2007) - On my list. Finally, Banks, your list overlaps mine!! (10/10)
BarcaRulz - Heat (1995) - I've only seen snippets of this movie, it's just really hard for me to get through. The scene in the diner between Pacino and DeNiro was terrific, though.
JohnL - The Lord of the Rings : The Two Towers (2002) - On my list. (10/10)
Two other things:
1. I'm going to take Thanksgiving night off from posting a movie, so for those of you outside the U.S., do not expect a post this Thursday.
2. Does anyone know how to clean out a computer's Host File? Mine is infected with dozens of sites that I don't want there, and nothing that I do to remove them seems to work.
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Re: Fantaverse Top 100 Movies of All Time (Thread #3): 80-71
I also view Kill Bill as separate films, but I think we all agree they're both amazing.
And I have a feeling V For Vendetta will be on everyone's list except for Six's.
As for the break, I think we should also take off either Weds or Friday night, as I'm assuming a lot of us will be out of town or with our families - and not really on here. Just a thought.
And I have a feeling V For Vendetta will be on everyone's list except for Six's.
As for the break, I think we should also take off either Weds or Friday night, as I'm assuming a lot of us will be out of town or with our families - and not really on here. Just a thought.
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Re: Fantaverse Top 100 Movies of All Time (Thread #3): 80-71
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Shryke - Copycat
I remember seeing this film on VHS when I was 15 or 16. I remember the funny face of Connick, and the scared face of Weaver's. BUt I don't remember much more. It seemed like a terribly standard serial killer movie.
Surfer - Rififi
I've never seen Rififi, but it sure looks good.
greenarrow - Fried green tomatoes
Wow, here's another one I haven't seen in a loooooong time. I remember I liked it, but too easy on the teardrops
transformers - Clerks
I just recently bought it on DVD, as it had never been released on dvd in France, all those years. So I haven't seen it in almost 10 years, but it does not prevent me from loving it. Like everyone already said, it's amazing what Smith managed to do with such a tiny budget. It's extremely funny and tender at the same time. The dialogues are delightful.
englishozzy - The Green Mile
Still a good film despite being 3hours long. Not my favourite Darabont.
Ron B - Shrek
Still funny, and the only film of the Shrek saga I care about.
Buscemi - To kill a mockinbird
I have seen this film for the first time last summer, in a restaured copy, on the big screen. The thing is, Harper Lee's book is one of my favourites, probably in my Top 5 best novels ever read, so although I found the film to be good, it still seems so inferior to Lee's words. But really, the film is good, it beautifully captures the atmosphere and greatly benefits from the strong performance by Peck. Had I not read To Kill a mockingbird, maybe the film would have appeared in my Top 100. It's possible.
Six - Boogie Nights
I haven't seen it since theater. I vividly remember seeing this film, it was in the UGC Champs-Elysées that closed soon after. I also remember the film to be excellent, it was the film that revealed Anderson's qualities as a filmmaker. Damn, that was 13 years ago.
Banks - Small Soldiers
I remember I really wanted to see this, but in the end I never have, unfortunately.
Barca - The Big Lebowski
Here come The Dude. When I saw it for the first time, in theater, I remember I found it okay, nothing extraordinary. Just funny. I have since seen it a few more times, and each time has made me reevaluate the Coens' film. Now it's my favourite of them.
Geezer - Mrs Doubtfire
This is one comedy I used to love when I was a teen, because back then every film that featured divorce in a non-dramatical way relieved me. My sister and I used to watch it often on video, but now it seems like such a long time ago. I don't know what I'd think of it today.
JohnL - Trainspotting
Still haven't seen it since 1997 or 98, and still don't really know what to say about it.
leestu - Finding Neverland
Meh. I like Depp. I like Winslet. But this film was so forgettable. Well I sure forgot it. Depp is a great actor, but he wastes most of his talent in unnecessary films, some even worst than that.
W - The matrix
Hey, W, a film I like in your Top ! No, let me correct. A film I love. I remember seeing it 3 times in theater back in 99. Maybe it's not as good as it used to be, probably because since 99, we have seen those horrible sequels the Wachowskis have come up with, but it's till such a strange mix of pseudo philosophy, asian martial arts and high technology that the film is mind-blowing in its weirdness.
Shryke - Copycat
I remember seeing this film on VHS when I was 15 or 16. I remember the funny face of Connick, and the scared face of Weaver's. BUt I don't remember much more. It seemed like a terribly standard serial killer movie.
Surfer - Rififi
I've never seen Rififi, but it sure looks good.
greenarrow - Fried green tomatoes
Wow, here's another one I haven't seen in a loooooong time. I remember I liked it, but too easy on the teardrops
transformers - Clerks
I just recently bought it on DVD, as it had never been released on dvd in France, all those years. So I haven't seen it in almost 10 years, but it does not prevent me from loving it. Like everyone already said, it's amazing what Smith managed to do with such a tiny budget. It's extremely funny and tender at the same time. The dialogues are delightful.
englishozzy - The Green Mile
Still a good film despite being 3hours long. Not my favourite Darabont.
Ron B - Shrek
Still funny, and the only film of the Shrek saga I care about.
Buscemi - To kill a mockinbird
I have seen this film for the first time last summer, in a restaured copy, on the big screen. The thing is, Harper Lee's book is one of my favourites, probably in my Top 5 best novels ever read, so although I found the film to be good, it still seems so inferior to Lee's words. But really, the film is good, it beautifully captures the atmosphere and greatly benefits from the strong performance by Peck. Had I not read To Kill a mockingbird, maybe the film would have appeared in my Top 100. It's possible.
Six - Boogie Nights
I haven't seen it since theater. I vividly remember seeing this film, it was in the UGC Champs-Elysées that closed soon after. I also remember the film to be excellent, it was the film that revealed Anderson's qualities as a filmmaker. Damn, that was 13 years ago.
Banks - Small Soldiers
I remember I really wanted to see this, but in the end I never have, unfortunately.
Barca - The Big Lebowski
Here come The Dude. When I saw it for the first time, in theater, I remember I found it okay, nothing extraordinary. Just funny. I have since seen it a few more times, and each time has made me reevaluate the Coens' film. Now it's my favourite of them.
Geezer - Mrs Doubtfire
This is one comedy I used to love when I was a teen, because back then every film that featured divorce in a non-dramatical way relieved me. My sister and I used to watch it often on video, but now it seems like such a long time ago. I don't know what I'd think of it today.
JohnL - Trainspotting
Still haven't seen it since 1997 or 98, and still don't really know what to say about it.
leestu - Finding Neverland
Meh. I like Depp. I like Winslet. But this film was so forgettable. Well I sure forgot it. Depp is a great actor, but he wastes most of his talent in unnecessary films, some even worst than that.
W - The matrix
Hey, W, a film I like in your Top ! No, let me correct. A film I love. I remember seeing it 3 times in theater back in 99. Maybe it's not as good as it used to be, probably because since 99, we have seen those horrible sequels the Wachowskis have come up with, but it's till such a strange mix of pseudo philosophy, asian martial arts and high technology that the film is mind-blowing in its weirdness.
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Re: Fantaverse Top 100 Movies of All Time (Thread #3): 80-71
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Shryke - District 9
One of the greatest surprises of 2009, yes. It's a strong metaphor on Apartheid that cements a political set to it, and an enticing sci-fi adventure/action that makes you hold to your seat all the way through it. Love it.
Surfer - Sin City
What I love the most about the Noir genre is that you can twist it into so many different genres and styles. That's when it's the most interesting. To install it in an unexpected background. Sin City wonderfully captures the noir spirit and mix it brilliantly with the comic feel. Great film.
greenarrow - Before Sunset
A beautiful sequel to a beautiful film. Linklater manages to keep the tenderness of the first one and add to it the bitterness of age. It also captures Paris with a nice sense of poetry.
transformers - Braveheart
Wow, again. no thanks, I have seen it once year ago, and don't really intend to watch it again.
Ozzy - V For Vendetta
No Banks, Six won't be the only one excluding vendetta from his Top 100. The only Top I can see myself including V For Vendetta is the Top 100 most overrated films.
Ron B - Blood Diamond
Another appearance, surprise. It's a good film, but that does not quite achieve what it could have, because Zwick does not want to make the black man the hero, just like he did not want to make the japanese man the hero in "The Last Samurai".
Buscemi - Coming Home
The Deer Hunter was on the action side, really ? Strange way of seeing the film. Anyway, I've never seen Coming Home, but sure intend to one day.
numbersix - Kill Bill
I totally understand that you do not want to separate the two films, although the first part is stronger than the second one. This is pure jubilatory cinema, where QT's style perfectly fits the story he wrote.
Banks - Ratatouille
Being French, Ratatouille has a special place in my heart among Pixar films, although I do not find it to be their best. Anton Ego's flashback sequence is one of Pixar's best.
Barca - Heat
I wonder what's going through Michael Mann's head lately, with him coming up with such disappointing films, while there was a time when he offered us The Last of the Mohicans and Heat. Great film, great parallel between gangster and cop, great performance by De Niro.
Geezer - Psycho
Classic in the best way. I haven't seen it in a long time, but I'm sure it feels the same all those years later, so chilling.
johnL - The Two Towers
I still can't cut the film in 3, but still think this is major cinema.
leestu - Oldboy
Aaaaaah, very nice choice leestu It's great to see some Korean love here. I still resent Tarantino for not giving the Palme d'Or to Oldboy. It should have won it.
W - Kramer vs Kramer
Excellent film here, W. It felt weird and uncomfortable when I was a kid of divorcees, but I saw it again a couple of years ago, as an adult cinephile, and the film moved me deeply. Probably still because of the divorce theme, but also because it wonderfully captures the father / son relationship (when the son is a kid).
Shryke - District 9
One of the greatest surprises of 2009, yes. It's a strong metaphor on Apartheid that cements a political set to it, and an enticing sci-fi adventure/action that makes you hold to your seat all the way through it. Love it.
Surfer - Sin City
What I love the most about the Noir genre is that you can twist it into so many different genres and styles. That's when it's the most interesting. To install it in an unexpected background. Sin City wonderfully captures the noir spirit and mix it brilliantly with the comic feel. Great film.
greenarrow - Before Sunset
A beautiful sequel to a beautiful film. Linklater manages to keep the tenderness of the first one and add to it the bitterness of age. It also captures Paris with a nice sense of poetry.
transformers - Braveheart
Wow, again. no thanks, I have seen it once year ago, and don't really intend to watch it again.
Ozzy - V For Vendetta
No Banks, Six won't be the only one excluding vendetta from his Top 100. The only Top I can see myself including V For Vendetta is the Top 100 most overrated films.
Ron B - Blood Diamond
Another appearance, surprise. It's a good film, but that does not quite achieve what it could have, because Zwick does not want to make the black man the hero, just like he did not want to make the japanese man the hero in "The Last Samurai".
Buscemi - Coming Home
The Deer Hunter was on the action side, really ? Strange way of seeing the film. Anyway, I've never seen Coming Home, but sure intend to one day.
numbersix - Kill Bill
I totally understand that you do not want to separate the two films, although the first part is stronger than the second one. This is pure jubilatory cinema, where QT's style perfectly fits the story he wrote.
Banks - Ratatouille
Being French, Ratatouille has a special place in my heart among Pixar films, although I do not find it to be their best. Anton Ego's flashback sequence is one of Pixar's best.
Barca - Heat
I wonder what's going through Michael Mann's head lately, with him coming up with such disappointing films, while there was a time when he offered us The Last of the Mohicans and Heat. Great film, great parallel between gangster and cop, great performance by De Niro.
Geezer - Psycho
Classic in the best way. I haven't seen it in a long time, but I'm sure it feels the same all those years later, so chilling.
johnL - The Two Towers
I still can't cut the film in 3, but still think this is major cinema.
leestu - Oldboy
Aaaaaah, very nice choice leestu
It's great to see some Korean love here. I still resent Tarantino for not giving the Palme d'Or to Oldboy. It should have won it.W - Kramer vs Kramer
Excellent film here, W. It felt weird and uncomfortable when I was a kid of divorcees, but I saw it again a couple of years ago, as an adult cinephile, and the film moved me deeply. Probably still because of the divorce theme, but also because it wonderfully captures the father / son relationship (when the son is a kid).
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Re: Fantaverse Top 100 Movies of All Time (Thread #3): 80-71
Here is why I view The Deer Hunter as being on the action side: when the characters play Russian Roulette. It's the main reason why anyone remembers that movie (mainly due to idiots deciding to do their own version of the scene at home).
However, it's been a while since I've seen it. The DVD is a bit pricey.
However, it's been a while since I've seen it. The DVD is a bit pricey.
Everything on this post is strictly the opinion and only the opinion of Buscemi.
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